나는 신이다: 신이 배신한 사람들 7

In the Name of God: A Holy Betrayal 7

[KOR-ENG DUAL SUB]

(앵커1) 만민중앙성결교회‬ ‪신도들이‬	Members of Manmin Central Church stormed the building,
‪기습적으로 침입해서‬	Members of Manmin Central Church stormed the building,
‪방송이 일시 중단되는‬	temporarily suspending the broadcast in an unprecedented incident.
‪사상 초유의 사고가 발생했습니다‬	temporarily suspending the broadcast in an unprecedented incident.
‪[사이렌이 연신 울린다]‬
‪[강조하는 효과음]‬
‪[강조하는 효과음]‬ ‪[신도들의 함성]‬
‪[신도들의 농성 소리]‬	The broadcaster! -Must wake up! -Must wake up!
‪- (남자) MBC는!‬ ‪- (신도들) MBC는!‬	-MBC! -MBC!
‪- 사람을!‬ ‪- (신도들) 사람을!‬ ‪[연신 농성한다]‬	-Must respect! -Must respect!
‪(앵커2) 만민교회 신도들은‬ ‪MBC 주조정실에 난입해‬	Manmin Central Church followers broke into MBC's main control room,
‪방송 테이프를 탈취하고‬	stole the videotapes, and stopped the broadcast.
‪방송을 중단시켰습니다‬ ‪[영상 속 신도들의 함성]‬	stole the videotapes, and stopped the broadcast.
‪(TV 속 재록) 누가 그거‬ ‪하고 싶어서 하나요?‬	Who would do that because they want to?
‪[TV가 지직거린다]‬	Who would do that because they want to?
‪(TV 속 성우) 그들이‬ ‪숨어 있기 마련…‬	They'd often be hiding…
‪[TV가 지직거린다]‬
‪[TV에서 삐 소리가 흘러나온다]‬	WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE TRANSMISSION ISSUE
‪검찰과 경찰은 이번 사태를‬	The police and prosecutors have determined
‪중대한 국가 안보 위해 사건으로‬ ‪규정하고‬	this incident as a major threat to national security.
‪(앵커3) 이재록 목사가 신도들을‬ ‪선동한 혐의가 드러나면‬ ‪[영상 속 사이렌 소리]‬	They're planning on arresting Pastor Lee Jae-rock if he's found to have
‪구속하기로 했습니다‬	instigated his followers.
‪[남자가 욕한다]‬	Fuck!
‪(앵커4) 종교 단체의‬ ‪집단행동 앞에서는‬	Facing the religious group's actions,
‪방송도 공권력도‬ ‪무기력하기만 했습니다‬	the broadcast and even the authorities were proven to be helpless.
‪[지직거리는 잡음]‬
‪[강조하는 효과음]‬
‪[연신 강조하는 효과음]‬	MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH
‪[음산한 효과음]‬	THE MAN WHO BECAME GOD OF MANMIN
‪[무거운 음악]‬
‪[발소리가 울린다]‬
‪(상일) 아, 그때가‬ ‪1999년 5월이고 하니까‬	It happened in May 1999, so it's been about 22 years.
‪한 22년 정도 된 거 같습니다‬	It happened in May 1999, so it's been about 22 years.
‪[피식 웃으며] 그런 경험을‬ ‪했던 사람들은‬	When you experience something like that, it's pretty hard to forget about it.
‪기억이 쉽게 잊히지 않는 거고‬	When you experience something like that, it's pretty hard to forget about it.
‪굉장히 생생하게‬ ‪아직도 기억이 나네요‬	I can still remember it very vividly.
‪[강조하는 효과음]‬
‪['PD수첩' 시그널 뮤직]‬
‪(상일) 'PD수첩' 프로그램은‬	PD Note is basically a TV program that receives reports from the viewers,
‪기본적으로‬ ‪시청자들의 제보를 받아서‬	PD Note is basically a TV program that receives reports from the viewers,
‪뭐, 프로그램 아이템을‬ ‪결정하는 프로그램인데요‬	and each program topic is based on one of those reports.
‪만민중앙교회 관련된 아이템들이‬	We were consistently getting a lot of reports about Manmin Central Church.
‪상당히 좀 꾸준히 올라왔었고‬	about Manmin Central Church.
‪[불안한 음악]‬
‪[강조하는 효과음]‬	UNITED HOLINESS CHURCH OF KOREA MANMIN MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH
‪저희가 받은 제보 영상이 뭐‬	The videos that we received
‪이렇게 휠체어 타고 있던 사람이‬	would show a person in a wheelchair suddenly standing up and walking.
‪(성광) 갑자기 벌떡 일어나서 걷고‬ ‪[영상 속 떠들썩한 신도들]‬	would show a person in a wheelchair suddenly standing up and walking.
‪장님이 눈을 뜨고 뭐, 이런‬	Or a blind person regaining their vision.
‪진짜 거짓말처럼‬	Or a blind person regaining their vision. It was hard to believe, so I thought, "This must be rigged."
‪'조작된 영상 아니야?'라고‬ ‪할 정도로‬	It was hard to believe, so I thought, "This must be rigged."
‪봤던 영상들을‬ ‪제가 직접 참가해 보니까‬	But I went there only to find those things in the video
‪그런 일이 실제로‬ ‪일어나고 있었고요‬	were actually happening.
‪[재록의 설교]‬ ‪[신도들이 호응한다]‬
‪(성광) 사람들은 다 거기에 또‬	And people were actually all reacting to what was going on as a group.
‪집단적으로‬ ‪반응을 하고 있었습니다‬	And people were actually all reacting to what was going on as a group.
‪그래서 '좀 무섭다'‬	So I thought it was a bit scary.
‪[음산한 음악]‬
‪[지직거리는 TV 잡음]‬	You must all understand why believers will be free from illnesses and evil,
‪[의미심장한 음악]‬	just by touching my shadow or me laying a handkerchief on them.
‪[재록이 신도에게 말한다]‬	Why are you sweating so much? There's so much sweat.
‪[재록이 기도한다]‬
‪(재록) 성령의 불로 구원받고…‬	Be cleansed with the fire of the Holy Spirit.
‪[재록이 연신 기도한다]‬	Be cleansed with the fire of the Holy Spirit. Be cleansed with the fire of the Holy Spirit.
‪[신도들의 박수와 노래]‬ ‪[재록이 연신 기도한다]‬	Be cleansed with the fire of the Holy Spirit. Be cleansed.
‪[신도들이 소란스럽다]‬
‪[신도들의 울음]‬
‪(사회자) 하여 주시옵소서‬	Please, my Lord.
‪감사드리옵고‬ ‪예수 그리스도 이름으로…‬	Thank you, my Lord, in the name of Jesus…
‪[신도들이 울며 호응한다]‬
‪일반 교회의 탈을 쓴‬ ‪사이비 단체였고요‬	It was basically a cult pretending to be an ordinary church.
‪[영상 속 재록의 노래]‬ ‪이재록 목사는 목사의 탈을 쓴‬	Pastor Lee Jae-rock was a con artist in the mask of a pastor.
‪사기꾼이었죠‬	Pastor Lee Jae-rock was a con artist in the mask of a pastor.
‪- (재록) ♪ 아, 지저스 ♪‬ ‪- (신도들) ♪ 지저스 ♪‬	-Jesus! -Jesus!
‪- (재록) ♪ 아, 지저스 ♪‬ ‪- (신도들) ♪ 지저스 ♪‬	-Jesus! -Jesus!
‪- (재록) ♪ 아, 지저스 ♪‬ ‪- (신도들) ♪ 지저스 ♪‬	-Jesus! -Jesus!
‪- (재록) ♪ 아, 지저스 ♪‬ ‪- (신도들) ♪ 지저스 ♪‬	-Jesus! -Jesus!
‪- (재록) ♪ 아, 지저스 ♪‬ ‪- (신도들) ♪ 지저스 ♪‬	-Jesus! -Jesus!
‪[사회자가 흥을 돋운다]‬
‪[밝은 음악]‬ ‪(재록) 아버지 하나님‬	God, our Father.
‪(재록)‬	Please descend upon us and grace us with your presence on this altar.
‪(신도들) 아멘!‬	Amen!
‪[신도들의 박수]‬	-Do you see that brilliant light? -Amen!
‪[신도들이 호응한다]‬ ‪(사회자1)‬	-Do you see that brilliant light? -Amen! Do you see that the light is brighter than usual? Do you see that shining light?
‪[재록이 호응한다]‬ ‪(사회자2)‬	If you look to Pastor Lee's left, on the screen, you see the white thing, right? On the second-floor balcony, on the left.
‪(재록) 예, 예, 예‬	you see the white thing, right? On the second-floor balcony, on the left. You can see that an angel has spread its wings, right there.
‪(사회자2)‬	You can see that an angel has spread its wings, right there.
‪(재록) 예, 예, 예‬	-Amen! -Right.
‪(재록)‬	Oh, my Lord. Got bigger, right? Look at the angel.
‪(재록) 영안이 안 열리신 분도‬ ‪지금 보입니다‬ ‪[신도들의 박수와 환호성]‬	You can see it even if you're spiritually blind.
‪영안이 안 열리신 분도‬ ‪지금 볼 수 있어요‬ ‪[사회자2가 '저기'라고 외친다]‬	Even those whose spiritual eyes aren't open can see it.
‪영안이 안 열리신 분도‬ ‪지금 볼 수 있어요‬	Even those whose spiritual eyes aren't open can see it.
‪(재록)‬	Even those whose spiritual eyes aren't open can see it. All right, everyone, take a good look. We've all been rewarded today.
‪[재록이 연신 호응한다]‬ ‪(방송실 관계자)‬	Excuse me, Pastor Lee. Please hold your mic and stay still, and don't move the hand with the mic in it.
‪(방송실 관계자)‬	-Our camera… -Yes. Our camera number two caught it.
‪[신도들의 박수]‬ ‪(방송실 관계자)‬	On the back of Pastor Lee's hand, there's an eagle and the four living creatures.
‪(재록) 예‬ ‪[신도들의 박수와 환호성]‬	there's an eagle and the four living creatures. This is real. Please look at the screen.
‪(방송실 관계자) 이건 실제입니다‬ ‪손등을 봐 주세요‬	This is real. Please look at the screen.
‪(재록) 할렐루야‬	Hallelujah.
‪[신도들이 연신 환호한다]‬
‪(재록) 머리 보세요‬ ‪머리하고 다 빛 보세요‬ ‪[여신도가 호응한다]‬	Look at the head. Look at the head and all the light.
‪[신도들의 박수와 환호성]‬	Do you see the crown on the head?
‪[신도들이 연신 환호한다]‬ ‪(재록)‬	Do you see the crown on the head?
‪(사회자3) [웃으며] 태산을‬ ‪넘어 험곡에 가도‬	He's in the center of light even if you go to the canyon over the hill.
‪빛 가운데로 와 있죠‬	He's in the center of light even if you go to the canyon over the hill.
‪[신도들의 환호성]‬ ‪(사회자3) [웃으며]‬	He's the light. He's the light itself.
‪이재록 목사가 설교를 할 때‬ ‪뒤쪽에 이제 빛이 뭐, 보이고‬	They were trying to make it look like the light was shining in the back
‪천사가 날아오는 거 같은‬ ‪식으로 하는 건데‬	and angels were flying in when Pastor Lee was preaching.
‪[숨을 씁 들이켜며]‬ ‪그거는 다 이렇게‬	and angels were flying in when Pastor Lee was preaching. But all those images are all fabricated.
‪영상 조작이고‬	But all those images are all fabricated.
‪그리고 또 이제‬ ‪그, 사회자라든지 관계자들과‬	The host and the people involved planned everything out beforehand.
‪이렇게 다 짜고 하는‬	The host and the people involved planned everything out beforehand.
‪[피식 웃으며] 고스톱 같은…‬	The host and the people involved planned everything out beforehand.
‪참 코미디 같은 일이죠‬	It's like a comedy show.
‪코미디 같은 일‬	It's like a comedy show.
‪그런데 코미디인데도 그들은 그게‬	Even though it's like a comedy show,
‪진짜라고 믿게 되는 거예요‬	they start believing that it's real.
‪정말 영화를‬ ‪많이 본 거 같아요, 그 사람은‬	Honestly, I think that guy has watched way too many movies.
‪저는 기도를‬ ‪그냥 '아버지 하나님'‬	When I prayed, I didn't ask for things like,
‪뭐, '몇십억 주세요'‬ ‪그렇게는 간청하지 않았어요‬	"Our Father, please give me billions of won."
‪'아버지 하나님'‬	I prayed, "God, our Father, the minimum I need is 40 billion won."
‪'최소한이 400억입니다'‬	I prayed, "God, our Father, the minimum I need is 40 billion won."
‪'급한 대로 400억 주셔야 되고'‬	"I need 40 billion won right away, at the very least."
‪'최소가'‬	"I need 40 billion won right away, at the very least."
‪'그리고 못해도 천억 이상'‬ ‪하다 보니‬	"And it should be more than 100 billion won." It was my prayer last week. More than 100 billion won.
‪지난주에 기도가 그랬어요‬ ‪'천억 이상'‬	It was my prayer last week. More than 100 billion won.
‪아, 이번 주에는 바뀌었어요‬	My prayer for this week has changed.
‪'아버지, 세계 이루려고 하니까‬ ‪신속하게 이루려고 하니까'‬	"I'm trying to quickly carry out Your will in all countries."
‪'지금 천억 가지고는 안 됩니다‬ ‪수천억도 안 됩니다'‬	"A hundred billion isn't enough, nor are hundreds of billions."
‪'수조 원 주셔야 됩니다'‬	"You must give me trillions of won."
‪[어두운 음악]‬
‪(성광) '이재록 목사님이'‬	I heard that Pastor Lee was using the church's money as he pleases.
‪이제 '교회 돈을‬ ‪마구잡이로 쓰고 있다'‬	I heard that Pastor Lee was using the church's money as he pleases.
‪'한번 도박하러 가면‬ ‪몇억 원씩 한다'‬	That when he goes gambling, he uses hundreds of millions of won at a time.
‪[어두운 음악]‬
‪라스베이거스를 갔죠‬	He went to Las Vegas.
‪와, 베팅 수준이 다른 거예요‬	I mean, his bets were on another level.
‪(탈퇴자) 홀에 100만 원 갔다가‬ ‪잃으면‬	If he loses a million won on odds,
‪또 홀에 200만 원을 가요‬	he'll bet two million won on odds again.
‪또 잃었잖아요‬	If he loses his money again, he'll bet six million on odds.
‪그다음에 홀에 600만 원을 가요‬	If he loses his money again, he'll bet six million on odds.
‪또 잃었잖아요‬	If he loses again,
‪1,800만 원을 가요‬	he'll bet 18 million won.
‪또 잃었잖아요‬	And if he loses again?
‪그럼 2,700만 원의‬ ‪두 배를 또 가요‬	Then he'll bet double the amount of 27 million won again.
‪와, 살 떨리더라고요, 나중에는‬	It became really nerve-wracking later.
‪그 부분이 다름이 아니라‬	The thing is, that money actually came from the church members' offerings.
‪신도들이 낸 헌금이었다는 거죠‬	The thing is, that money actually came from the church members' offerings.
‪왜 라스베이거스‬ ‪뭐 하러 가겠습니까?‬	Why on earth would I go to Las Vegas? What would be so good about going there?
‪뭐가 좋다고 거기 가겠습니까?‬	Why on earth would I go to Las Vegas? What would be so good about going there?
‪어디 가서 편히 쉬고 놀면 되는데‬	I could go somewhere to relax and enjoy myself.
‪그렇지마는 제 욕심은‬ ‪며칠 우리에게 시간이 있으니까‬	But I went there as I thought, "Since I have a few extra days,
‪'내가 좀‬ ‪재정 좀 해결해야 되겠다'‬	I'll try to take care of the church finances."
‪그러고 갔습니다‬	I'll try to take care of the church finances."
‪우리 교회 직원들 다 압니다‬	All our church staff here know too.
‪쉬지도 못하고 놀러 가지도 못하고‬	I couldn't take a break or go on vacation. How pathetic is it to just keep sitting in front of that machine?
‪그거 기계 앞에서 앉아있다는 게‬ ‪얼마나 초라합니까?‬	How pathetic is it to just keep sitting in front of that machine?
‪누가 그거 하고 싶어서 하나요?‬	Who would do that because they want to?
‪[불안한 음악]‬
‪(성광) 가장 저희가 중요하게‬ ‪생각했던 부분이 이제‬	What concerned us the most was
‪'성폭행이나 추행이나‬ ‪이렇게 성 관련'‬	that many female followers were victims of sexual abuse,
‪'피해 입은 여신도들이 많다'‬	such as sexual harassment or assault.
‪저희가 만난 피해자들은‬ ‪한 서너 명 정도 있었고요‬	There were three or four victims that we met.
‪그런 일이 일어났던 장소가 어디냐‬	We asked them where it had happened.
‪(성광) 아방궁이라는 곳이‬ ‪있었어요‬	There was a place called "Epang Palace."
‪그들의 말로는 뭐‬ ‪천국이라고 하는 곳이었는데‬	And apparently, they called the place "Heaven."
‪(여자) 넌 저곳이‬ ‪뭐 하는 곳인지 아냐고‬	He asked if I knew about the place.
‪이것은 에덴동산이라고 하면서‬	He said it was the Garden of Eden,
‪[새가 지저귀는 효과음]‬ ‪처음부터 옷을 벗었기 때문에‬ ‪흉이 되지 않고‬	and it wasn't hideous to be naked there.
‪악이 없고 죄가 없다고 하면서‬	He also said there is no evil or sin,
‪자연스럽게 뭐, 입맞춤을 한다거나‬ ‪가슴을 만진다거나‬	as he casually did things like kissing or touching breasts.
‪본인이 직접 시범을‬ ‪모든 것을 먼저 합니다‬	He was always the first to demonstrate everything himself.
‪자기가 성기를 애무를 하더니‬	He fondled his genitals and told us to all try it too.
‪너희들도 한 번씩 하라 그러면서‬	He fondled his genitals and told us to all try it too.
‪그, 이재록 목사의‬ ‪반론을 듣기 위해서‬	To hear Pastor Lee's side of the story, we tried many times to see him and eventually went to visit him.
‪여러 번 시도를 하다가‬ ‪찾아간 적이 있어요‬	we tried many times to see him and eventually went to visit him.
‪(상일) 이재록 목사 집을‬ ‪찾아간 적이 있는데‬	We actually went to Pastor Lee's house.
‪[영상 속 미심쩍은 음악]‬	Pastor Lee has his yearly schedule all planned out.
‪(이 목사 측근)‬	Actually, some schedules are planned over two years.
‪- (상일)‬ ‪- (이 목사 측근)‬	We are here because Pastor Lee is involved. Even if he is, we still need enough time. We gave you plenty of time--
‪- (상일)‬ ‪- (이 목사 측근)‬	We gave you plenty of time-- One week is not enough for us, let alone a month.
‪그, 갑자기 이제 그쪽에서도‬ ‪카메라를 들고 와서‬	They suddenly got these cameras and started filming us too.
‪[웃으며] 찍는 거예요, 그래서‬	They suddenly got these cameras and started filming us too.
‪(성광) 저희 카메라 팀에서‬ ‪가지고 간 카메라보다‬	They brought equipment and cameras that were even better than ours.
‪더 좋은 카메라와 장비들을 가지고‬	They brought equipment and cameras that were even better than ours.
‪저희를 거꾸로‬ ‪역으로 취재를 하면서‬	Then they started interviewing us instead
‪당신들 다 찍어서 제보하겠다고‬	and said they would film and report us.
‪[강조하는 효과음]‬ ‪[무거운 음악]‬	1999 THE MBC RAID
‪만민중앙교회를 취재하는 동안‬ ‪한 달 내내‬	We kept on getting complaint calls for the entire month of preparing the Manmin Central Church story.
‪계속 항의 전화가 계속 왔어요‬	of preparing the Manmin Central Church story.
‪[전화벨 소리]‬
‪[통화하는 소리]‬	Yes, hello?
‪- 예, 'PD수첩'입니다‬ ‪- (남자) 예‬	Yes, you've called PD Note.
‪그러니까 일반적인 업무를‬	The sheer volume of the complaint calls
‪교양국 내에서 볼 수 없을 정도로‬ ‪항의 전화가 많이 왔고요‬	The sheer volume of the complaint calls were so high that we couldn't do our daily work.
‪가족들에 대한 협박 내지는‬	They were threatening our families or trying to intimidate us.
‪뭐, 위협, 이런 거였거든요‬	They were threatening our families or trying to intimidate us.
‪아, '네 남편이 우리 교회를‬ ‪괜히 음해를 한다'‬	"Your husband is slandering my church for no reason."
‪'너희들은 거기에 따른‬ ‪하나님의 벌을 받는다'‬	"You all will receive the Lord's punishment for that."
‪거짓 자들을‬ ‪소문을 퍼트리는 거를 믿고‬	They believe in the rumors that are being spread by those liars.
‪이단 정죄하려고 하고‬	They're trying to label us as a cult.
‪언론까지, 이렇게 방송까지‬	Even the media and broadcast stations
‪이렇게 보도를 하고 있으니‬ ‪도대체 어찌 된 일입니까‬	are all reporting on us, so what in the world is going on?
‪2주간 부흥 성회가 있던‬ ‪주간이었는데‬	It was when the two-week revival meetings took place.
‪(탈퇴자) 부흥 성회‬ ‪기간이었기 때문에 화요일이어도‬	Because of the meetings, there were many believers,
‪성도들이 많았던 거예요‬	even though it was a Tuesday.
‪[영상 속 신도들이 소란스럽다]‬ ‪'MBC에서'‬	They were told that MBC was doing a report on Manmin Central Church,
‪'만민교회 관한 내용의‬ ‪보도를 한다'‬	They were told that MBC was doing a report on Manmin Central Church,
‪[영상 속 호루라기 소리]‬ ‪'근데 그게 거짓된 보도고‬ ‪가서 항의, 데모를 해야 된다'‬	which was false, so they should go and protest.
‪교회 차가 준비돼 있으니‬ ‪거기에 탑승하라고‬	That the Church vehicles were outside, so they should get on the vehicles.
‪교회 차를 타고, 대형 버스‬ ‪꽤 많이 동원됐을 거예요‬	They were large buses, so I imagine they brought a lot of people.
‪(성광) 방송 시간이 11시였는데‬	The broadcast time was 11:00 p.m.,
‪한 40분?‬	but I think we got the final tape around 10:40 p.m.
‪[영상 속 거친 숨소리]‬ ‪40분 정도에 최종 테이프가‬ ‪나왔어요, 그래서‬	but I think we got the final tape around 10:40 p.m. I was waiting anxiously before receiving the tape around 10:45,
‪초조하게 기다리다‬ ‪45분쯤에 테이프를 받아서‬	I was waiting anxiously before receiving the tape around 10:45,
‪주조에다 테이프를 넘긴 시각이‬ ‪50분이었어요‬	and I handed it off to the control room around 10:50.
‪[신도들의 박수와 노래]‬
‪(탈퇴자) 구로동에서 MBC까지‬ ‪시간이 얼마 걸리지 않아서‬	It doesn't take that long to get to MBC from Guro-dong.
‪도착해서 보니까‬ ‪MBC, 그때 밖에서인가?‬	When I got there, I saw people
‪이렇게 담 밖으로‬ ‪이제 모이기 시작하고 있었고‬	starting to gather outside the walls around MBC.
‪[신도들의 박수와 노래]‬
‪(성광) 버스를 5, 6대 이상‬ ‪MBC 앞에 대 놓고‬	They had parked at least five or six buses in front of MBC.
‪[영상 속 신도들이 연신 노래한다]‬ ‪버스에서 내려서 한순간에‬ ‪밀고 들어왔다고 하더라고요‬	I heard they got off the buses and stormed in all at once.
‪교회 직원들과 함께‬ ‪이제 쭉 들어왔죠‬	They got into the building along with the church employees.
‪[신도들의 함성]‬	LOBBY OF MBC BUILDING ON THE DAY OF THE INDICENT
‪[요란한 농성 소리]‬	LOBBY OF MBC BUILDING ON THE DAY OF THE INDICENT
‪[불안한 음악]‬	LOBBY OF MBC BUILDING ON THE DAY OF THE INDICENT
‪[신도들의 함성]‬
‪[신도들이 연신 소란스럽다]‬
‪['PD수첩' 시그널 뮤직]‬
‪(성광) 그, 로고가 나가고‬ ‪광고가 나가고‬	The logo and commercial went on air, and the program started.
‪본방이 시작됐어요‬	The logo and commercial went on air, and the program started.
‪[불안한 음악]‬
‪'와' 소리가 나는 거예요‬	Then I heard people yelling. We were on the fourth floor at the time.
‪[영상 속 신도들이 소란스럽다]‬ ‪그 당시 교양국이 4층이었는데‬	Then I heard people yelling. We were on the fourth floor at the time.
‪4층 복도에서부터 엄청난‬ ‪함성이 들리는 거예요, 그래서‬	I could hear very loud screaming from the fourth-floor hallway.
‪'뭐, 무슨 일이지?' 해서‬	I took a look because I didn't know what was going on, and all of a sudden,
‪쳐다보고 있는데 갑자기 사무실로‬	I took a look because I didn't know what was going on, and all of a sudden,
‪[영상 속 신도들이 소란스럽다]‬ ‪(성광) 그 정체불명의 남자들이‬ ‪뛰어들면서‬	these strange men ran into the office.
‪이제 제 이름이랑‬	They were shouting my name and the names of the other producers who worked on it,
‪그 당시 같이했던 피디님들‬ ‪이름을 외치면서‬	They were shouting my name and the names of the other producers who worked on it,
‪'잡아가' 하는 거예요, 그래서…‬	yelling, "Get them!"
‪그때 저는 이제‬ ‪집사람한테 전화를 받았죠‬	That's when I got a call from my wife.
‪'아침부터, 물론 그전에도 왔지만'‬	She was continuously receiving threatening calls
‪'계속 협박 전화가‬ ‪너무 심하게 온다'‬	since the morning, even worse than the ones before.
‪'무섭다'‬	She said she was scared.
‪제 딸이 그때 유치원 다녔는데‬	My daughter was in kindergarten back then, and there were threats against her too.
‪애에 대한 협박도 하고‬ ‪하기 때문에‬	My daughter was in kindergarten back then, and there were threats against her too.
‪(상일) '지금 다 끝났으면‬ ‪빨리 왔으면 좋겠다'라고 해서‬	My wife asked me to hurry home if I was done with everything.
‪저는 엘리베이터를 타고‬ ‪1층에 와 보니까‬	So I took the elevator to the first floor,
‪사람들이 꽉 차 있더라고요‬	and the place was packed with people.
‪[신도들의 위압적인 노래]‬	and the place was packed with people.
‪[신도들의 함성]‬
‪(상일) 그 흥분한 신도들한테‬ ‪잡히면‬	I honestly thought I might be killed
‪솔직한 얘기로‬ ‪'죽음에 이르지 않을까'라는‬	if I got caught by the riled-up believers.
‪그런 생각도 들었고‬	if I got caught by the riled-up believers.
‪(성광) 저 사람들이 제 이름이랑‬	They were shouting my name
‪뭐, 저랑 같이했던‬ ‪피디님들 이름을 외치면서‬	and the names of the other producers that worked on it,
‪사진을 들고 온 거 같더라고요‬ ‪[영상 속 신도들이 소란스럽다]‬	and I think they also had photos of us.
‪그래서 사람들 찾고 막‬ ‪하는 소리를 듣고 숨어 있었어요‬	I went hiding as I heard them looking for people.
‪공포스러웠죠, 진짜…‬	It was really terrifying.
‪'야, 이게 무슨 일인가' 싶었죠‬	I was thinking to myself, "What on earth is going on?"
‪[신도들의 흥분한 함성]‬
‪- MBC는!‬ ‪- (신도들) MBC는!‬	-MBC! -MBC!
‪- 사람을!‬ ‪- (신도들) 사람을!‬	-Must respect! -Must respect!
‪- 존중하라!‬ ‪- (신도들) 존중하라!‬	-People! -People!
‪[연신 소란스럽다]‬
‪(상일) '우리 목자님을'‬	They were saying anyone slandering their pastor like this is the Devil.
‪'이런 식으로‬ ‪음해하는 세력은 악마다'‬	They were saying anyone slandering their pastor like this is the Devil.
‪굉장히 저 개인도 걱정을 했고‬	I was really worried for myself
‪남아 있는 제작진도‬ ‪걱정이 좀 많았죠‬	as well as the crew members who were still there.
‪(길용) '너 윤 피디 맞는구나'‬	"You're Yoon, right?"
‪뭐, '이 악랄한 놈' 그러더니‬	They were going to grab me by my collar after calling me an evil bastard.
‪뭐, 멱살 잡고 이러려 그러다가‬	They were going to grab me by my collar after calling me an evil bastard.
‪방송이 나가니까‬	But the show was airing,
‪'방송 중단시키자!' 그러더니‬ ‪'어디야, 어디야' 하더니‬	so they yelled, "Let's stop the broadcast. Where is it? Where?"
‪뛰어 내려간 거예요, 주조에‬	Then they ran to the control room.
‪[불안한 음악]‬ ‪'2층의 주조정실이'‬	They said, "The show is being aired from the control room on the second floor,
‪'방송이 송출되는 곳이니까‬ ‪그걸 막아야 된다'‬	They said, "The show is being aired from the control room on the second floor, so we need to stop that." That was quite specific and technical.
‪상당히 그건 전문적인 얘기였죠‬	so we need to stop that." That was quite specific and technical.
‪그만큼 이 사람들이 준비를 하고‬	That's how well-prepared they were.
‪계획적으로‬ ‪조직적으로 쳐들어왔다‬	They planned everything out and stormed in as a group.
‪(성광) 주조정실은‬ ‪국가 안전시설이라‬	The control room is a national security facility,
‪[영상 속 카드 인식음]‬ ‪이렇게 몇 개의 안전장치가‬ ‪돼 있거든요‬	The control room is a national security facility, so there are multiple security measures.
‪실제 안에서 사람을 확인하고‬ ‪문을 열어 주게 돼 있어요‬	Somebody inside has to verify the person to open the door.
‪그러니까 그 문을‬ ‪부수고 들어갔다는 건‬	That's why I don't understand
‪저도 사실 이해가‬ ‪안 갔거든요, 근데…‬	how they broke through that door.
‪[신도들이 소란스럽다]‬ ‪[철문 부서지는 소리]‬
‪(성광) 주조 문을 부수고‬ ‪안에 난입을 해서‬	They broke the door and got into the control room,
‪방송에 나가고 있던 데크에서‬ ‪테이프를 꺼냈습니다‬	where they grabbed the tape that was airing out of the deck.
‪[신도들이 연신 소란스럽다]‬
‪(성광) [어이없이 웃으며] 진짜로‬ ‪무슨 군사 세력도 아니고‬	I thought they were like a militia.
‪몇백 명이 방송을‬ ‪정지시켰다는 거는…‬	The fact that there were hundreds who stopped the broadcast…
‪[저마다 고함친다]‬	You can't touch that!
‪(남자) 아, 조용히 하세요, 진짜!‬ ‪조용히 하세요!‬ ‪[연신 고성이 오간다]‬	Be quiet, seriously! Stay quiet.
‪(상일) 신도들과 이제 뭐‬ ‪쉽게 말해 격투를 벌이고‬	We basically got into a brawl with the church members.
‪이제 그런 와중에‬ ‪얼룩말이 등장하게 된 거예요‬ ‪[의미심장한 음악]‬	And that's when the zebras appeared on the screen.
‪[연신 소란스럽다]‬
‪(TV 속 재록) 그거 기계 앞에서‬ ‪앉아 있다는 게‬	How pathetic is it to just keep sitting in front of that machine?
‪얼마나 초라합니까?‬	How pathetic is it to just keep sitting in front of that machine?
‪[사람들의 고함]‬ ‪누가 그거 하고 싶어서…‬	Who would do that because…
‪[지직거리는 TV 잡음]‬
‪(TV 속 성우) 그들이‬ ‪숨어 있기 마련…‬	They'd often be hiding…
‪[지직거리는 잡음]‬	Who would… They'd…
‪(TV 속 성우) 그들이 숨…‬	They'd…
‪저희들 MBC 쪽에서‬ ‪그거를 방어를 하면‬	PD Note would play whenever we managed to protect the tape.
‪(상일) 'PD수첩'이 나가고‬	PD Note would play whenever we managed to protect the tape.
‪[지직거리는 TV 잡음]‬
‪(상일) 만민교회 신도들이 와서‬	Then when Manmin Central Church members pressed the stop button,
‪그거를 스톱을 누르면‬ ‪[영상 속 버튼 조작음]‬	Then when Manmin Central Church members pressed the stop button,
‪얼룩말이 나가고‬	the zebras would air.
‪[영상 속 사람들의 고함]‬ ‪[피식 웃으며] 다시 또 저희들이‬ ‪하면은 다시 방송이 나가고‬	Then we'd step in again and the show would play.
‪이런 식으로 방송이‬ ‪파행이 됐었고‬	That's how the broadcast was disrupted.
‪(운철) 'PD수첩' 사건 때에‬ ‪만민교회가 그걸 보여 줬어요‬	During the PD Note incident, Manmin Central Church showed everybody
‪'아, 그러니까 이단이라고‬ ‪불렸구나'‬	exactly why a religious group would be called a cult and a fake one.
‪'아, 이러니까 사이비 종교구나'‬ ‪라고 인식되는 것이었죠‬	exactly why a religious group would be called a cult and a fake one.
‪[흥분한 신도들의 박수와 노래]‬
‪[강조하는 효과음]‬	1999 THE MBC RAID
‪[불안한 음악]‬	1943 THE BIRTH OF LEE JAE-ROCK
‪(운철) 이재록 씨는 1943년‬	Lee Jae-rock was born in 1943,
‪전남 무안에서 3남 3녀의‬ ‪막내로 태어났습니다‬	in Muan, Jeollanam-do, as the youngest of three boys and three girls.
‪(주민1)‬	It was a small house with a thatched roof.
‪(피디) 아, 초가집?‬	Oh, a thatched hut?
‪(주민2)‬	Apparently, they lived in that house over that way.
‪[새가 지저귄다]‬
‪(주민2)‬	I heard that he was really clever since he was young.
‪[강조하는 효과음]‬
‪[눈길 걷는 발소리]‬ ‪[까마귀 울음]‬
‪(영상 속 재록) 참으로 가슴 아픈‬ ‪일이었지요‬	It was indeed heartbreaking for me.
‪충만하던 성도들이‬ ‪핍박을 피해 뿔뿔이 흩어지니‬	So many faithful believers were scattered in order to escape persecution.
‪마치 주의 몸 된 교회가‬ ‪훼파된 것처럼 보였습니다‬	It seemed like the church, the body of Christ, had been destroyed.
‪네, 무안만민교회는‬ ‪이제 만민교회 신자들한테‬	To Manmin Central Church members, Muan Manmin Church is considered sacred.
‪성지처럼 여겨지는 곳이고‬	To Manmin Central Church members, Muan Manmin Church is considered sacred.
‪(명준) 그래서 많은 성도들이‬ ‪매년마다‬	That's why a lot of the members visit there every year
‪연례행사처럼‬ ‪성지 순례로 찾는 곳입니다‬	as a sort of annual event of pilgrimage.
‪[기묘한 음악]‬	as a sort of annual event of pilgrimage.
‪(운철) 고등학교 때까지‬ ‪평범하게 지내다가‬	He served in the army after living an ordinary life until high school.
‪군대를 갔다 왔고‬	He served in the army after living an ordinary life until high school.
‪거기서 지금의 아내를 만나서‬ ‪결혼하고‬	Then, he met and married his current wife.
‪슬하에 딸 3명을 낳았습니다‬	And they had three daughters.
‪그렇게 평범하게 지내던 어느 날‬	So he was living an ordinary life.
‪몸이 굉장히 많이 아팠다고 그래요‬	Then one day, apparently, he got very sick.
‪뭐, 각종 질병들 여러 가지‬ ‪많이 걸려서‬	He had all different kinds of diseases.
‪거의 뭐, 걸어 다니는 종합병원‬ ‪뭐, 이 정도로‬	There wasn't a part of his body which was healthy, you know.
‪[걷는 발소리]‬
‪(운철) 그렇게 말할 수 없는‬ ‪고통에 시달리면서‬	He suffered unbearable pain for seven years,
‪7년 동안 괴로워하다가‬	He suffered unbearable pain for seven years,
‪친척 누나를 따라서‬ ‪한 기도원을 가게 됐는데‬	then he followed one of his relatives to a house of prayer. There, he experienced "the laying on of hands."
‪거기서 안수 기도라는 것을 받고‬	There, he experienced "the laying on of hands."
‪그 많은 질병들이‬ ‪다 사라졌다고 합니다‬	Apparently, he was completely cured after that.
‪그런데 여기서 재밌는 것은 그가‬	But the interesting thing here is
‪'하나님의 음성을‬ ‪직접 들었다'라고 한다는 것이죠‬	that he claimed he had heard the voice of the Lord.
‪다 그의 자서전에‬ ‪나와 있는 내용입니다‬	All of this is in his autobiography.
‪'1975년 아침 일찍'‬	"It was 1975." "I went to the house of prayer on Chilbosan in Suwon one early morning."
‪'수원 칠보산 기도원에 올라가서'‬	"I went to the house of prayer on Chilbosan in Suwon one early morning."
‪'담요를 깔고 무릎 꿇어‬ ‪기도하는 중이었다'‬	"I laid down a blanket and was praying on my knees."
‪'여기서 나는 처음으로‬ ‪하나님의 음성을 듣게 되었다'‬	"That's when I first heard God's voice."
‪'가는 곳마다 내가 함께하며'‬	"He said, 'I shall always be with you.'"
‪'기사와 표적으로‬ ‪내가 살아 있음을'‬	"'You shall be my servant, who tells the world
‪'만방에 알리는 내 종이 되리라'‬	of my existence through wonders and signs.'"
‪[엄숙한 음악]‬	1982 ESTABLISHMENT OF MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH
‪(운철) 1982년 만민교회를‬ ‪세우게 됩니다‬	In the year 1982, he established Manmin Central Church.
‪이때서부터 이재록 씨는‬	That's when he decided to start calling himself God.
‪이제 스스로 '신이다'라고 하는‬ ‪길을 걷게 된 것입니다‬	That's when he decided to start calling himself God.
‪처음에는 만민중앙교회가‬ ‪크게 이제 부각되지 않았어요‬	Initially, Manmin Central Church did not really stand out.
‪그러다가 어느 날서부터, 어…‬	And then, one day,
‪매년 5월 둘째 주일‬ ‪한 주간 동안 이제‬	he began these "healing rallies" to cure people of their illnesses,
‪아픈 사람을 치료한다고 하는‬ ‪치유 집회라는 것을 하는데‬	for an entire week on the second week of May every year.
‪아버지!‬	Our Father!
‪[재록의 기도]‬ ‪[신도들이 소란스럽다]‬	Our Father!
‪[신도들의 박수와 노래]‬
‪[신도들의 박수와 노래]‬
‪[영상 속 힘찬 음악]‬	God gave us wisdom and strength.
‪[차분한 음악]‬ ‪언니를 낳을 당시에‬ ‪엄마도 혼수상태셨고‬	When my older sister was born, my mother was in a coma,
‪언니도 잘못돼서 인큐베이터 안에‬ ‪들어가 있던 때였어요‬ ‪[영상 속 아기 울음]‬	and my sister was also in an incubator because something was wrong with her.
‪(탈퇴자) 그때 아빠의 여동생분이‬	That's when my father's sister said,
‪'내가 다니는 교회가 있는데'‬	"There's this church that I go to."
‪'진짜 지푸라기라도 잡는 심정으로‬ ‪한번 불러서 기도라도 받아 봐라'‬	"You should ask them to visit and pray for you, as a last resort."
‪정말 기적적으로‬ ‪엄마도 괜찮아지고‬	Then, as if by some miracle, my mother got better
‪언니도 정상으로 퇴원한 거예요‬	and my sister also came home healthy.
‪어, 이재록 씨가 기도를 해 주면‬	I witnessed a lot of people getting cured as a result of Lee Jae-rock's prayers.
‪많은 병자가 낫는 거를‬ ‪저도 봤어요‬	I witnessed a lot of people getting cured as a result of Lee Jae-rock's prayers.
‪실제로 5층에서, 우리‬ ‪떨어진 사람이 있어요‬	There was a man who fell from the fifth floor.
‪이 갈빗대가 다 부러져 갖고‬	He broke all of his ribs, so he was brought there in an ambulance.
‪앰뷸런스로 싣고 왔습니다, 이분을‬	He broke all of his ribs, so he was brought there in an ambulance.
‪(광오) 이재록 씨가‬ ‪'빛이여, 임하라! 아버지 하나님'‬	Lee Jae-rock said, "Let there be light," and asked God,
‪뭐, 근본의 빛으로‬ ‪모든 죄악을 몰아내고‬	while laying his hand on the man, to drive away all sins with His light
‪뭐, 아픈 걸 아물게 해 달라고‬ ‪안수 기도를 해 주면‬	while laying his hand on the man, to drive away all sins with His light and to heal the man.
‪이분이 벌떡 일어나서‬ ‪막 펄떡펄떡 뛰는 거예요‬	Then he got to his feet and started jumping around.
‪[신도들의 박수와 노래]‬
‪(탈퇴자) 제가 직접 본 거는‬ ‪걷지 못하는 사람이 걷는 것들‬	I personally saw people who couldn't walk getting to their feet and walking.
‪휠체어에 앉아 있던 사람이‬ ‪나았던 것들‬	Also, a person in a wheelchair being cured.
‪그리고 병원에서 사형 선고를 받은‬	And patients who were told they had stage-three lung or liver cancer,
‪폐암 3기라든지, 간암 3기라든지‬	And patients who were told they had stage-three lung or liver cancer,
‪그랬던 사람들이 낫는 것들‬	that they wouldn't live, were cured.
‪- (신도1) 할렐루야‬ ‪- (신도2) 아멘‬	-Hallelujah. -Amen.
‪(피디) 실제로 나았나요?‬ ‪[영상 속 신도들의 기도]‬	Were they actually cured?
‪(탈퇴자) 네‬	Yes.
‪(신도들) 아멘‬ ‪[불안한 음악]‬	Amen. Many dead came back to life after receiving prayers,
‪(재록) 죽은 자가 기도받고‬ ‪수만이 살아났고‬	Many dead came back to life after receiving prayers,
‪수많은 사람, 소경이 눈을 뜨고‬	those who were blind could see again, mute people spoke, and deaf people heard.
‪벙어리가 말하며‬ ‪귀머거리가 들었고‬	those who were blind could see again, mute people spoke, and deaf people heard.
‪앉은뱅이 서며‬ ‪중풍 병자 일어나 뛰어 걸었고‬	People got up from their wheelchairs to run and walk,
‪기타 수많은 것…‬	and many others…
‪(재록) 여기 너무 사람이‬ ‪많이 나왔어요, 아버지 하나님‬	There are so many people gathered here, God, our Father.
‪[영상 속 벅찬 음악]‬ ‪(성우) 마음과 정성을 다해‬	Pastor Lee prayed for all the patients with all of his heart.
‪전체 환자 기도를‬ ‪해 주신 당회장님‬ ‪[영상 속 재록이 기도한다]‬	Pastor Lee prayed for all the patients with all of his heart.
‪기도가 채 끝나지 않았는데도‬	Even before his prayers ended,
‪치료받은 성도들이‬ ‪간증을 하기 위해‬	the healed believers began to step forward to the podium
‪단 앞으로 나오기 시작했고‬ ‪[영상 속 재록의 기도 소리]‬	in order to give their testimonies.
‪끝날 때까지 함께 역사하겠다‬ ‪약속 드려요‬	He said He'll be with us until the very end.
‪(성우) 그 질병이 얼마나‬ ‪오래되었고 깊은가에 대한 것은‬ ‪[영상 속 사회자가 말한다]‬	The duration or severity of the illnesses didn't matter at all.
‪전혀 중요치 않았습니다‬ ‪[영상 속 신도들의 박수]‬	The duration or severity of the illnesses didn't matter at all.
‪[영상 속 사회자가 연신 말한다]‬ ‪이후에 수련회 때도 치료의 역사는‬	The healing powers of God continued even in the retreat afterward.
‪계속해서 이어졌습니다‬	The healing powers of God continued even in the retreat afterward.
‪기독교에서‬ ‪귀신을 많이 내쫓잖아요‬	Exorcism is a common practice in Christianity.
‪(탈퇴자) 귀신 들린 사람들이‬ ‪발악을 하는 거예요‬	The people possessed by ghosts were going crazy.
‪(신도1)‬	What am I going to do?
‪(사회자)‬	He prayed for you, right?
‪(신도1) [울면서]‬	My goodness, what am I going to do?
‪- (사회자)‬ ‪- (신도1) [울먹이며]‬	-Stop it! Be quiet. -I have nowhere to go.
‪- (사회자)‬ ‪- (신도1) [연신 울면서]‬	-Get out. He just prayed for you. -I really have nowhere to go.
‪(사회자)‬	What does the evil spirit look like?
‪(남자) 말하고 싶지 않답니다‬
‪(사회자)‬	What does that crow inside of you look like?
‪[신도2의 옅은 한숨]‬ ‪(사회자)‬	Say it.
‪[통역사가 중국어로 말한다]‬ ‪[신도2의 힘겨운 숨소리]‬
‪(사회자) 눈 떠, 마주쳐‬	Look me in the eyes.
‪저분이 기도해 주실 때‬ ‪소리 지르고 나가‬	When he prays for you, scream and leave.
‪아버지 하나님‬	God, our Father.
‪원수 마귀, 더러운 것들‬ ‪다 물리쳐 주시고‬ ‪[신도들이 '아멘'을 외친다]‬	Please drive out the Devil and all foul things.
‪(재록) 그 안에 있는 모든 것들‬ ‪다 물리쳐 주시고‬	Drive out everything that's inside of her.
‪[신도들이 연신 '아멘'을 외친다]‬ ‪성령의 불담으로 지켜 주시고‬	Protect us with Your Holy Spirit's wall of fire.
‪(재록) 너는 너 때가 다 됐으니‬ ‪이제 나가야 돼, 나가‬	It's time for you to leave. Now go.
‪[신도들의 박수와 환호성]‬
‪(사회자)‬	Hallelujah. We give thanks to the Father for healing her.
‪[신도2가 중국어로 말한다]‬	Hallelujah. We give thanks to the Father for healing her.
‪(신도2) [중국어]‬	I love you, Shepherd.
‪(재록) [한국어]‬	Of course. Live well and stay faithful.
‪(운철) 이재록 씨는 1991년‬ ‪자신이 속했던 교단‬	In 1991, Lee Jae-rock was dismissed from his position as pastor at Jesus Korea Sungkyul Church,
‪예수교대한성결교회에서‬ ‪목사 파직을 당했습니다‬	from his position as pastor at Jesus Korea Sungkyul Church, the denomination of which he had been a part.
‪그러니까 실질적으로는‬ ‪목사가 아닌 것이죠‬	So technically, he's not a pastor.
‪마음이 청결한 자는‬	The Bible says that you can see God if your heart is pure.
‪하나님을 볼 수 있다고‬ ‪성경이 말씀하는데‬	The Bible says that you can see God if your heart is pure.
‪왜 하나님을 봤다고 하면‬ ‪잘못됐다고 하는 것인지요‬	So why do people keep saying it's wrong for me to say I've seen God?
‪[엄숙한 음악]‬	1991 THE DISMISSAL
‪(운철) 한국기독교총연합회에서‬	The Christian Council of Korea defined him as a heretic.
‪이단으로 규정을 받았는데‬ ‪그 맨 마지막 문장이‬	The Christian Council of Korea defined him as a heretic. The very last sentence says,
‪'극단적 신비주의 형태의‬ ‪무서운 이단'‬	"A terrifying heretic who practices extremist mysticism."
‪이라고 규정을 했습니다‬	That's how they defined him.
‪그런데 그는 오히려 그때서부터‬	After that, however, he started
‪더욱더 자유롭게‬ ‪사이비적인 요소들을 늘리면서‬	to develop the cult-like elements even more liberally
‪자신만의 왕국을‬ ‪건설하게 되었습니다‬	and build his very own kingdom.
‪(영상 속 신도1) 아름다운 이들이‬ ‪모여 있는 이곳에‬	Where beautiful ones gather,
‪(신도1)‬	God is looking over us.
‪[말 울음]‬
‪(영상 속 신도2) 새 예루살렘‬ ‪목자의 성의 주인이신‬	Here comes the beautiful one, the glorious shepherd of New Jerusalem.
‪아름다운 그분을 모십니다‬	Here comes the beautiful one, the glorious shepherd of New Jerusalem.
‪[신도들의 박수]‬	Here comes the beautiful one, the glorious shepherd of New Jerusalem.
‪'MBC 사건을 겪으면서‬ ‪만민이 더 성장하게 됐고'‬	After the MBC incident, Manmin grew even more
‪'더 강하게 결집하게 됐다'‬	and became even more unified.
‪(탈퇴자) 방송국을 습격을 해서‬	There were some pastors and deacons
‪카메라를 부쉈던 그 목사님들이나‬ ‪집사님들이 계셨었는데‬	who had broken cameras during their raid on the broadcasting station.
‪[불안한 음악]‬	who had broken cameras during their raid on the broadcasting station.
‪- 사람을!‬ ‪- (신도들) 사람을!‬	-Must respect! -Must respect!
‪- 존중하라!‬ ‪- (신도들) 존중하라!‬	-People! -People!
‪[저마다 고함친다]‬
‪거의 영웅 정도로‬ ‪취급을 받더라고요‬	The others treated them almost like heroes.
‪그 당시에는 만민교회가‬ ‪결백하다고 생각을 했죠‬	I thought Manmin Central Church was innocent at the time.
‪똘똘 뭉쳤죠‬	We were bonded even stronger. Even more so.
‪오히려‬	We were bonded even stronger. Even more so.
‪방송이 나가고 나서‬	After the show had aired,
‪그, 굉장히 집요하고 지속적으로‬	they filed lawsuits very persistently and continuously.
‪소송을 제기를 했습니다‬	they filed lawsuits very persistently and continuously.
‪방송 후로 한 6, 7년 정도까지‬	For about six or seven years after the broadcast,
‪어, 법원에 끌려다니고…‬	we were pulled into court.
‪굉장히 오랜 기간 동안‬ ‪소송으로 굉장히 괴롭혔었습니다‬	They bullied us with those lawsuits for a very long time.
‪(문현) MBC가 승소를 했죠‬	MBC won the case. But even though MBC won in terms
‪뭐, 손해 배상이나 아니면‬ ‪명예 훼손에 대한 부분들에 대해서‬	But even though MBC won in terms
‪MBC가 다 이제‬ ‪승소를 했음에도 불구하고‬	of damages and defamation,
‪이제 이재록 씨는‬	Lee Jae-rock told everybody that MBC lost and Manmin Central Church won.
‪'만민중앙교회가 이겼고‬ ‪MBC가 졌다'라고 이렇게‬	Lee Jae-rock told everybody that MBC lost and Manmin Central Church won.
‪대대적인 홍보를 했죠‬	Lee Jae-rock told everybody that MBC lost and Manmin Central Church won.
‪이건 그런데‬ ‪신도들을 결집시키기 위한‬	But I think this was a way for him to unite his church members.
‪하나의 수단이 아니었나‬	But I think this was a way for him to unite his church members.
‪(신도들) 아멘!‬	Amen. But hearing things like that doesn't make me happy,
‪(신도들) 사랑해요!‬	We love you!
‪[영상 속 힘찬 음악]‬ ‪(사회자1) 사랑하는‬ ‪총대회장님께서 입장하고 계십니다‬	Our beloved Pastor Lee is now making his entrance.
‪여러분, 힘찬 박수와 환호로‬ ‪맞이해 주시기 바랍니다!‬	Everyone, please give him a huge round of applause and cheer as he enters!
‪(사회자2) 만국의 보배!‬	The treasure of all nations!
‪만민을 통해, 목자를 통해!‬	He shall be glorified through all nations and our shepherd!
‪영광 받으소서!‬	He shall be glorified through all nations and our shepherd!
‪당회장님께 대하여 경례!‬	Salute to Pastor Lee!
‪만민!‬	Manmin!
‪만민!‬	Manmin!
‪[영상 속 힘찬 음악]‬
‪(탈퇴자) 만민교회는‬ ‪행사가 참 많아요‬	There are so many events in Manmin Central Church.
‪일단 빼놓을 수 없는 것이‬ ‪중간에 이재록 씨 생일‬	One of the most important ones is Lee Jae-rock's birthday.
‪한 거의 5억 이상‬ ‪투자하는 걸로 알고 있어요‬	As far as I know, they spend more than 500 million won.
‪무대도 화려하게 꾸미고‬	With flashy stage decorations,
‪외부에서 이제 촬영 업체라든지‬ ‪전부 다 불러 가지고‬	external companies are hired too, including a filming team.
‪굉장히 화려하게 합니다‬	It's quite a spectacle.
‪[힘찬 음악]‬ ‪[신도들의 환호성]‬	2017 "CAMPFIRE"
‪[경쾌한 음악이 흘러나온다]‬	2017 "CAMPFIRE"
‪[재록이 노래한다]‬ ‪[신도들의 환호성]‬
‪[재록이 연신 노래한다]‬ ‪[신도들이 함께 노래한다]‬
‪[함께 연신 노래한다]‬
‪[신도들의 환호성]‬
‪심지어는 뉴욕‬	Once, he even preached at Madison Square Garden in New York.
‪매디슨 스퀘어 가든에서도‬ ‪했어요, 성회를‬	Once, he even preached at Madison Square Garden in New York.
‪(재록) 믿음으로 기도받으시는‬ ‪여러분 모두에게‬	Only if you receive the prayer by faith, I firmly believe
‪하나님의 축복이‬ ‪임할 것입니다‬	that God will wonderfully bless you.
‪[통역사가 영어로 통역한다]‬
‪[신도들의 박수]‬
‪이 시간에 친히 안수하여 주옵소서‬	Please lay your hands on the people here.
‪(재록) 능력, 능력, 능력‬	Power, power.
‪[통역사가 영어로 통역한다]‬
‪할 줄 아는 게 그거밖에 없어요‬	That's all he can do.
‪그냥 병자 치유해 준다고‬ ‪쇼를 하는 거‬	He puts on a show, pretending he's healing the sick.
‪여기서 했던 그대로 가서‬ ‪만들고 만들고 만들고 해서‬	He just reenacted the same thing he was doing here.
‪'이재록 씨가 해외에서도‬ ‪이렇게 인기를 끌고 있고'‬	Then they would say, "Lee Jae-rock is so popular overseas."
‪'해외에서도‬ ‪이렇게 많은 사람 고쳤다'라고‬	"He's healing a lot of people there too." That's how they advertise it in Korea.
‪국내에서 홍보하고‬	"He's healing a lot of people there too." That's how they advertise it in Korea.
‪[힘찬 음악]‬ ‪가는 곳마다, 여는 곳마다…‬	Everywhere I go…
‪(성우) 당회장님께서‬ ‪말씀하신 그대로‬	Just as Pastor Lee said,
‪하나님께서 살아계신 증거가‬ ‪[영상 속 사회자가 영어로 말한다]‬	the audience could see proof that God is alive.
‪[영상 속 신도들의 탄성]‬ ‪참석자들의 눈앞에 펼쳐졌고‬	the audience could see proof that God is alive.
‪[영상 속 재록이 연신 말한다]‬ ‪놀라운 치료의 역사로‬ ‪수많은 이들을 깨운‬	And at the great assembly in Pakistan in 2000,
‪2000 파키스탄 연합대성회‬	where he awakened so many with his amazing healing powers,
‪[파키스탄인 신도들의 탄성]‬
‪아버지께서 함께하시는‬ ‪제단임을 확증했습니다‬	he proved that Our Father is with our church.
‪'우리 목자님의 권능이‬ ‪날이 갈수록 커진다'‬	"Our shepherd's powers are growing day by day."
‪[어두운 음악]‬ ‪'그리고 더 대단해진다'‬ ‪'놀라워진다'‬	"He's becoming even greater, even more amazing."
‪조금 더 열정적으로 하면서‬	As he was acting more passionately, perhaps he fooled himself of it too.
‪자기 스스로 자기 최면을‬ ‪걸었던 것일 수도 있고‬	As he was acting more passionately, perhaps he fooled himself of it too.
‪심지어는‬	He even said that every single wonder that happened in the world
‪세상에 일어나는‬ ‪모든 신비로운 일들이‬	He even said that every single wonder that happened in the world
‪다 자기 덕이라고 얘기하는 거예요‬	was because of him.
‪[탁]‬ ‪그러니까 예를 들면‬	was because of him. So, for example, if there was a rainbow, he'd say that he created it.
‪무지개가 떠도‬	So, for example, if there was a rainbow, he'd say that he created it.
‪'이거는 내가 무지개 한 거야'‬	So, for example, if there was a rainbow, he'd say that he created it.
‪[잔잔한 음악]‬ ‪(남자)‬	Wow, it's amazing.
‪[여자의 웃음]‬	Wow, it's amazing.
‪(남자) [박수 치며]‬	What a beautiful rainbow. Hallelujah.
‪(남자)‬	It's a perfect rainbow.
‪(남자) 목자의 하나님, 감사합니다‬	Thank you, my shepherd's Lord!
‪아버지, 감사합니다‬	Thank you, Father.
‪잠자리가 자신의 어깨에 앉는다‬	If a dragonfly landed on his shoulder, he said it was because he's God.
‪'이거는 내가 신이기 때문이다'‬	If a dragonfly landed on his shoulder, he said it was because he's God.
‪[힘찬 음악]‬ ‪(성우) 한 마리도 아닌‬ ‪여러 마리가‬	Not one, but multiple dragonflies are sitting on multiple parts of the body.
‪몸 이곳저곳에‬ ‪아무렇지 않게 붙어 있습니다‬	Not one, but multiple dragonflies are sitting on multiple parts of the body.
‪[어두운 음악]‬ ‪가장 충격적이었던 거는‬	What shocked me the most
‪허리케인‬	was the hurricane. There was this hurricane in the United States,
‪그러니까 '미국에 지금 발생한‬ ‪허리케인이 있는데'‬	There was this hurricane in the United States,
‪'내가 기도를 했더니‬ ‪허리케인이 물러갔다'‬	and he claimed that it went away after he prayed.
‪초강력 허리케인 '어마'가‬ ‪210km/h의 강풍을 동반한 채‬	The powerful hurricane Irma landed in the United States with strong winds of 210 km/h.
‪(앵커) 미 본토에 상륙했습니다‬	landed in the United States with strong winds of 210 km/h.
‪[영상 속 위태로운 음악]‬ ‪(마크) [영어]‬
‪(마크)‬
‪[거센 바람 소리]‬ ‪(마크)‬
‪[벅찬 음악]‬ ‪(재록) [한국어]‬	Our Father, God of Hosts.
‪(재록)‬	Your son is praying to you.
‪(재록)‬	Please put this hurricane to rest so that it can disappear.
‪(재록)‬	Please put this hurricane to rest so that it can disappear.
‪'갑자기 등급이 약화됐다'‬	He shows you that the hurricane has been reported to be lowered in its category.
‪'이런 발표가 나왔다'‬ ‪이런 것들을 막 보여 줘요‬	He shows you that the hurricane has been reported to be lowered in its category.
‪[영상 속 거룩한 음악]‬ ‪(성우) 기도 그대로‬ ‪토씨 하나 틀리지 않고‬	The weather itself obeyed him exactly as he had prayed.
‪기압과 기후까지 순종한 것입니다‬	The weather itself obeyed him exactly as he had prayed.
‪그러니까 뭔가 기후라든가‬ ‪신비한 자연 현상을‬	So, he made it sound like climate change and natural phenomena
‪마치 자신의 기도인 것처럼‬	So, he made it sound like climate change and natural phenomena
‪기도 덕분인 것처럼‬ ‪'포장을 했다'라는 거죠‬	had occurred because of his prayers.
‪[새가 지저귄다]‬
‪[영상 속 힘찬 음악]‬
‪(성우) 사모함으로 기다린‬ ‪5월 3일 '영 잔치' 날‬	May 3rd is the day of the Spirit's Party we've been longing for.
‪(명준) '영 잔치'라 함은‬ ‪이 사람들이 모여서‬	So the Spirit's Party is where people gather
‪'하나님이 이 땅에‬ ‪내려오신다'라고 해서‬	because God is supposed to be visiting.
‪하나님 임재극을 펼쳤던‬ ‪그런 때도 있고‬	There were times when they even enacted God's visit.
‪[신도들의 탄성과 박수]‬
‪[신도들이 감탄한다]‬
‪[신도들이 인사한다]‬	Oh, our Father is about to appear.
‪(사회자) 자, 아버지‬ ‪임재하시려고 하십니다‬	Oh, our Father is about to appear.
‪[신도들이 웅성거린다]‬
‪(사회자) 예, 내려오십니다‬	Yes. He is descending.
‪(남자) 내려오고 계십니다‬	He's coming down.
‪[영상 속 힘찬 음악]‬
‪하나님의 임재 쇼‬	It was a show to prove God's presence.
‪신격화의 극치죠‬	It was the epitome of deification.
‪그게 뭐, 장난입니까, 그게?‬	It's a joke. That's what it is.
‪하나님 불러서 오라고 하면 오고‬	God shows up when He is summoned.
‪뭐, 하늘의 영들 불러서‬ ‪오라 그러면 오고‬	God shows up when He is summoned. And the spirits in Heaven also show up.
‪그들과 같이, 어‬	He'd walk around with them
‪(운철) 동행하면서‬ ‪이것저것 보고 한 거예요‬	and look around.
‪[벅찬 음악]‬ ‪(사회자1) [울먹이며]‬	When Pastor Lee starts walking, our God, the Father, will be on his right
‪(사회자1)‬	and Jesus on his left, walking together by his side.
‪(사회자2) [벅찬 목소리로]‬	God says He missed you so much.
‪[사회자2의 감격한 웃음]‬ ‪(사회자2)‬	He's crying right now.
‪[서늘한 음악]‬
‪이재록 목사가 재밌는 거는‬	The funny thing about Pastor Lee
‪뭔가 주변에 어떤 캐릭터들을‬ ‪만들어 놓는다는 거예요‬	is that he makes these "characters" around him.
‪그러니까 자신을‬ ‪신격화하기 위해서‬	He has these supporting actors
‪어떤 조연을 두는 거죠‬	to deify himself.
‪탄탄한 시나리오를 만드는 것처럼‬	He surrounds himself with those who speak on his behalf,
‪주변에 그런 대언자들을 두는 거죠‬	like writing a solid scenario.
‪[영상 속 잔잔한 음악]‬ ‪(사회자)‬	Pastor Lee's eyes and mouth look almost identical to God's.
‪(사회자)‬	His hair is long, and he is surrounded by light.
‪(신도1)‬	He showed me the hand of God, the Father.
‪(신도1)‬	His fingers are thick, and His hands are big.
‪(신도2)‬	The face of God, the Father, resembles the face of Pastor Lee so much.
‪(신도2)‬	I don't think I'll be able to sleep at night.
‪[신도들의 웃음]‬	I don't think I'll be able to sleep at night.
‪(신도3) 나를 위해서‬	"Because you have given me so many spiritual children,
‪(신도3)‬	"Because you have given me so many spiritual children,
‪(신도3)‬	who know how I feel and who I can share my feelings with." That was the message sent by God.
‪(신도3)‬	He said, "How could I not come given all of this?"
‪(신도3)‬	"How could I turn down such an invitation?" I've heard Him tell me those things.
‪(신도3)‬	I've heard Him tell me those things.
‪[불안한 음악]‬
‪[신도들의 박수]‬ ‪(사회자) 큰 소리로‬ ‪웃으셨습니다‬	We'll begin the feast now. God just laughed loudly.
‪네, 주님이 참으로‬ ‪아름답다고 하시면서요‬	Yes, Lord said that you are so beautiful
‪여기 있는 모두의 고백으로‬	and that He just heard all of your confessions.
‪들으셨다고 말씀하셨습니다‬ ‪이렇게…‬	and that He just heard all of your confessions.
‪(신도들)‬	Our beloved Father!
‪(신도들)‬	We've been longing to see you so much!
‪(신도들)‬	Thank you. We love you!
‪(호기) 삼위일체를 상징하는‬ ‪어떤 세 자리를 만들어 놓고‬	He would get these three chairs to represent the Holy Trinity
‪그 한 자리에 자기가 앉는 거죠‬	and take a seat in one of them.
‪[흥미로운 음악]‬ ‪그러니까 이거는 정말…‬	So it was really…
‪굉장히 영리한‬ ‪어떤 퍼포먼스 같은 거‬	It was an incredibly clever show.
‪그러니까 사람들이 봤을 때는‬	People saw two seats for the Father and the Son,
‪성부, 성자가‬ ‪앉아야 할 자리가 있는데‬	People saw two seats for the Father and the Son,
‪그 옆에 이재록 목사가 앉아 있다‬	and Pastor Lee was sitting right next to them.
‪그럼 뭐다?‬	What does that mean?
‪자연스럽게 연상되는 거죠‬	Naturally, that would lead to a conclusion.
‪하나님께서, 뭐‬	They would say that God wants to see another Christ.
‪'또 한 분의 주를‬ ‪보고 싶어 하신다'‬	They would say that God wants to see another Christ.
‪뭐, 이런 얘기를 하면은‬ ‪이재록 씨가 그렇게 얘기하죠‬	Lee Jae-rock will say this then.
‪'여기서 또 한 분의 주는‬ ‪저를 지칭하는 거예요'‬	"Another Christ here is referring to me."
‪(이 목사)‬	"I really want to see our Father in Heaven."
‪(이 목사)‬	"I really want to see our other Christ too."
‪(재록)‬	Does it say, "our other Christ"? -Yes. "The Holy Spirit." -What?
‪[재록이 재차 묻고 호응한다]‬ ‪(이 목사)‬	-Yes. "The Holy Spirit." -What? "I want to meet the Holy Spirit too."
‪[재록의 웃음]‬ ‪(이 목사) 네‬	"I want to meet the Holy Spirit too." You know, that's referring to me.
‪(재록)‬	You know, that's referring to me. He wants to see me.
‪(명준) 만민교회 안에서‬	They were always looking for hidden shapes in Manmin Central Church.
‪그런 어떤 형상 찾기를‬ ‪되게 많이 했어요‬	They were always looking for hidden shapes in Manmin Central Church.
‪가장 대표적인 거는 이제 벽면‬	The most notable one was studying the walls.
‪벽면에 있는 얼룩 그런 데서‬ ‪형상 찾기 그런 거?‬	You know, they were looking for shapes in the smudges on the walls.
‪(사회자) 여기에도 계시고요‬	He's here too.
‪[신도들의 환호성과 박수]‬
‪(사회자) 여기에도 계시고‬ ‪[신도들의 탄성]‬	He's right here too.
‪보이시죠?‬	Can you see it?
‪[신도들이 웅성거린다]‬
‪(사회자) 너무 정확하게‬ ‪여기 계속해서 있으시고‬ ‪[신도들의 탄성]‬	Look, he's clearly right here too.
‪예, 여기도 있으시고‬ ‪여기도 있으시죠, 여기, 여기‬ ‪[신도들의 박수]‬	Yes, he's here too. And look, right here.
‪- (신도) 아멘!‬ ‪- (신도들) 아멘!‬	-Amen! -Amen!
‪(사회자) 여기도 있으시고‬ ‪[신도들의 박수와 환호성]‬	-Amen! -Amen!
‪자기 얼굴이 달 위에 떠 있고‬	His face would be right on the moon.
‪태양 속에 자기의 얼굴이 나타나고‬	His face was in the sun too.
‪(재록)‬	You all saw me on the moon before, right?
‪(신도들) 아멘!‬	Amen!
‪(재록)‬	At the last moment, why do you think that God put my face on the moon and the sun?
‪[카메라 셔터음]‬ ‪(재록)‬	why do you think that God put my face on the moon and the sun?
‪[카메라 셔터음]‬ ‪(재록)‬	Just think about it. Why did He?
‪[카메라 셔터음]‬	What kind of person am I
‪(재록) 여러분도 보셨죠?‬	You all saw it too, right?
‪[신도들의 박수와 호응]‬
‪(재록) 천사 날개 쫙 펴고는‬ ‪[신도들의 박수]‬	It's an angel spreading its wings.
‪저도 찾아보셨어요?‬	Did you look for me too?
‪[신도들이 호응한다]‬
‪여기에 또 제가 왜 안에 있는지‬	You all now know why I'm in this image,
‪천사의, 이렇게 날개 안에 있는지‬	why you can see me in the wings of the angel.
‪이런 거는 이제 여러분들이‬ ‪아신단 말이에요‬	why you can see me in the wings of the angel.
‪[신도들이 호응한다]‬ ‪(재록) 제가 어디 있습니까?‬	-Amen! -Where am I?
‪저 천사 안에 제 모습이‬ ‪뚜렷하게 나와 있지 않습니까?‬	Isn't my figure clearly inside that angel?
‪(신도들) 아멘!‬	Amen!
‪(재록) 보이면 보인다고 해 주세요‬	If you can see me, please say so.
‪(신도들) 아멘!‬	Amen!
‪[신도들의 박수]‬	You can clearly see me, right?
‪(재록) 제 모습이‬ ‪너무 뚜렷하게 보이죠?‬	You can clearly see me, right?
‪(신도들) 아멘!‬	Amen!
‪(재록) 아, 왜 목자가‬ ‪이렇게 있는지‬	You know why I'm in there.
‪그러니까 왜 이렇게 권능을‬ ‪이렇게 행해 나가는지‬	You know exactly how I have so much power.
‪[헛웃음]‬
‪- 예, 뭐, 끼워 맞추려면 보이죠‬ ‪- (영상 속 재록) 양쪽의 날개에…‬	Well, you can see anything if you try to.
‪저는 이런 류의 사진을‬ ‪많이 봤기 때문에 금방 찾아요‬	I can find him right away as I've seen so many pictures like this one.
‪그러니까 여기서 말하는‬ ‪이재록 형상이 뭐라…‬	I know exactly what he means by "the shape of Lee Jae-rock,"
‪뭐라는 거를 알기 때문에‬ ‪금방 저는 찾습니다‬	I know exactly what he means by "the shape of Lee Jae-rock," so I can find it quickly, which is why it makes me sad.
‪그래서 슬퍼요‬	so I can find it quickly, which is why it makes me sad.
‪[웃음]‬	so I can find it quickly, which is why it makes me sad.
‪[웃으며] 아직도 달을 보면‬ ‪아직도 보여요‬	I still see his face when I look at the moon.
‪[차분한 음악]‬
‪그 문제를‬ ‪처음으로 듣게 됐던 그날‬	I still remember the day
‪그날은 제가 기억해요‬	when I heard about what happened.
‪[탄식]‬
‪이거요, 믿기지도 않는 얘기예요‬	Well, it was just unbelievable.
‪'진짜 이런 미친 일이‬ ‪일어날 수가 있나?'‬	I was like, "Something like this couldn't happen."
‪아, 이게 도저히‬ ‪어떻게 상상을 하겠어요?‬	I mean, who could have imagined?
‪[어두운 음악]‬
‪(성피해자1) 속옷을 풀더라고요‬	He started unclasping my bra.
‪속옷을 푸는데‬ ‪너무 능수능란해서 깜짝 놀랐어요‬	I was surprised because he was so good at it.
‪(성피해자2)‬ ‪'정혜 [음 소거 효과음] *지는‬ ‪누구 거?'‬	"Who does your ***** belong to, Jeong-hye?"
‪그곳을 굉장히 자세히 관찰을 해요‬	He examines that "part" very closely.
‪그냥 자세히 들여다봐요‬	He just keeps staring at it.
‪(성피해자3) 관계를 갖는 중에‬	While we were having intercourse,
‪계속 좋냐고‬ ‪막 물어봤어요, 나한테‬	he kept asking me if it felt good.
‪소리를 내라고 계속 그랬어요‬	And he kept telling me to moan.
‪'좋아? 좋아?'‬	He was like, "Do you like that? Do you?"